First hand account of medical cannabis stage 4 small cell lung cancer.
Treating stage 4 small cell lung cancer with Cannabis Oil and other things.
Medical disclaimer: This page is for informational purposes only and may not be construed as medical advice. The information is not intended to replace medical advice offered by physicians.
I wanted to share some information on our experience we had recently with my 84 year old Dad who was diagnosed with stage 4 small cell lung cancer in April 2019. This is by no means me stating any of what we did to be a cure but more just wanting to share what we have experienced so far and how my Dad is going.
In short Dad was diagnosed with stage 4 small cell lung cancer in April last year. In May while I was away working at the Finders Keepers Market in Sydney I got the phone call from my sister who was distraught and giving me the news that our beautiful Dad has been given only 3 months to live. I know 83 is a good innings but I guess we just weren’t ready for him to go let alone suffer a terrible death. Apparently small cell lung cancer (usually caused from smoking of which Dad was a very heavy one) is extremely aggressive and not treatable with chemo or radiation. Dad’s oncologist initially said because of Dad’s age that he was not eligible for those treatments anyway. Dad was always adamant that if he had cancer he wouldn’t do chemo, he has always said it is just left over mustard gas from the war. Fast forward one week the oncologist called him in again and said that because Dad is a very active 80 something year old that he could probably handle the chemo. Dad really wasn’t feeling like he was ready to die just yet and wanted longer to live. The oncologist said the only thing they could do was 6 rounds of chemo which MIGHT get him through to Christmas and that it would NOT cure his cancer it may just slow it down. If he did this he would be lucky to get to Christmas. Even though it went against everything he believed in Dad went along with it as they ushered him off to the oncology ward to start his first round of Chemo. Poor Dad, he did one round of chemo and came home. He started to lose his hair ( he proudly had a full head of gorgeous thick grey locks), he was nauseas, vomiting and eventually rushed to hospital in an ambulance when he collapsed and was taken to ICU and on the brink. His body was not dealing with the chemo. A few days later he told his doctor what he could do with this chemo therapy and decided he wanted to try some alternatives and was not going to continue with Chemotherapy.
Ash and I had been researching and found a lot of literature on medical marijuana and how CBD destabilises the cancer cells and THC can cause apoptosis (basically the cancer cell kills itself).
We watched youtube clips, read blogs, watched docos, anything we could do to educate ourselves. We found where we could source some oils locally where they were supplying cannabis oil to assist in not only cancer but also epilepsy, anxiety, nausea, chronic pain and all sorts of ailments. So we went out there and spoke with the most amazing and inspiring lady. She gave us all the info we needed and the oils (around $1500 worth) and off we went. (feel free to email me for more info on where we sourced them)
My Dad has never smoked a joint in his life. He is old school and always thought marijuana was the root of all evil. But we showed him some of the videos and he agreed to give it a try.
We bought him straight CBD paste and oil and then some very high THC which he needed to take 20 drops of. We thought we should give it to Ash first to try and holy crap.. it was so strong!! Ash basically ended up tripping all night and didn’t sleep and was a mess the next day. I was so worried. How was Dad going be able to take such high amounts of THC and deal with the extreme high it produced? We did more research and found that if it is taken anally or through the rear end that it by-passes the liver and and has no psychoactive effects. (you may need to ask a doctor about the specifics of that) so we tried that the next day with Ash the guinea pig, we mixed the oil down in some coconut MCT oil and put it in a syringe and he took it via the back door…. Voila.. he felt nice and relaxed but wasn’t stoned or tripping out. Great, Dad will be ok with this.
We also started researching all sorts of other treatments while Mum and Dad hitched up their caravan and made the trip from Eildon in Victoria and headed to our place in Northern NSW to start a full regime of cannabis oil, diet and anything else we could get our hands on to help him. This was big and so brave of them both, this was his life and we had it in our hands. Some of my family were not stoked , they were worried that Dad wouldn’t be back and they wouldn’t see him again or maybe that we were being reckless with his life but it was Dad’s choice and the chemo just wasn’t for him so we felt we had no choice and we knew that Mum and Dad needed our support to take on all of these different therapies. I am so proud of Dad for taking that risk and also being so open to fully immerse himself in this journey.
We also had to look in to how we would get his body back and were prepared for him to pass up here in our house if it came to that. Either way I was ok with it. I just wanted to pour all my love and everything I had into making Dad as comfortable and as healthy as possible.
So here is what we did.
CBD and THC
We have also spoken to a lot of people who had tried the oils and had no success with them but after talking with them realising perhaps they hadn’t had enough. You need A LOT of THC. As I said before Dad was to have 20 drops of very very high THC (2 drops would get me feeling pretty stoned). This is too hard for some people but again we found the suppository method was the best way around this. It’s not glamorous but there are worse ways to treat cancer. So THC at night as much as you can handle just before sleep is best for most people.. Straight CBD when you wake up can also dust off the the “mull over” and fogginess the next day. . We also made our own paste with our good friends from Mullumbimby using the Rick Simpson (RSO) method. To make your own you need at least one big plant and that should get you around 90 days worth of RSO oil. If you can’t make your own I suggest getting in contact with the Nimbin Hemp Embassy via Facebook and chatting with them. I could go on and on but in a nutshell our bodies have what is called an endocannabinoid system. The endocannabinoid system is a molecular system responsible for regulating and balancing many processes in the body, including immune response, communication between cells, appetite and metabolism, memory. Because CBD stimulates the endocannabinoid system, it helps to promote homeostasis in the body, reducing the sensation of pain and inhibiting inflammation. Research into the possible uses of CBD and other cannabis compounds is a growing area of study, meaning the list of potential benefits is likely to grow. But studies have found that it has a massive impact on cancer, Chrone’s disease, MS, fibromyalgia and all sorts of ailments. This is still illegal however some doctors are now prescribing CBD but only if you have exhausted all other legal avenues of treatment first. So in Dad’s case to be illegible for CBD and THC from the doctor he would have had to have had the 6 rounds of chemo and radiation before he would be considered. There is a tonne of info on the internet about CBD and THC so get googling.. Some good sources of info are
Youtube – Run From The Cure the sotry of Rick Simpson (the guy who pretty much found that cannabis could cure all sorts of things including cancer) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIzP5pV8ZIY
Also there is a great doco on Netflix called Weed The People.
Firstly, from our research we found that cancer LOVES and feeds off sugar so that had to go. We cut all sugar from Dads diet, that included, grains (apart from buckwheat and quinoa), all fruit with the exception of berries and cantaloupe which he could have BEFORE a meal. We cut out dairy, meat, coffee and anything else that was acidic. We also found a lot of literature stating that cancer can not live in an alkaline environment so anything that was acidic was to go and we also gave him a drink of bi-carb soda in lemon water twice a day which is said to alkalise the body.
We did do some juicing if he was feeling up to it which would have a small green apple and lots of greens but some days he just wasn’t up to it.
Here is some more info
We had so much support from beautiful friends offering their support which we took them up on. Our gorgeous friend Lissie Turner from The Yoga Shack in ocean shores offered up her services and she came over and started Dad on some deep breathing exercises. We would breath and chant with him around the kitchen table each day which was so beautiful. The extra oxygen and the chanting which seems to regulate his exhale was really beneficial. After each session we would see the colour come back to his face. He laughed a lot too as we would chant “MAAAAAAAAAAA” on our exhale, we must have sounded like some strange cult. We had also read that oxygen can also kick cancers butt so we fully immersed in that as a daily ritual. We looked in to hyperbaric oxygen chambers as well but unfortunately Dad was too sick at that stage to travel that far (90 mins away) and it was also really expensive.
We bought Dad a paper journal for him to start writing down what he was grateful for. Just 5 things a day. This also became a ritual for all of us. We would sit as a family before dinner and share what we were grateful for in that day or life in general. What a beautiful thing to do. To listen to our 83 almost 84 year old Dad telling us how grateful he was for life, his family, his breath and even his cancer which was clearly becoming a source of an outpouring of love and giving us all a thirst and gratitude for life.
We were also lucky enough to have another gorgeous friend Danni Sartori who is an incredible acupuncturist and neurolink specialist come in and give Dad some treatments. This was also completely foreign to him but he took it on and really enjoyed it.
Vitamin C IV Drips.
We also consulted with our local GP here in Ocean Shores, and are lucky enough to have the most incredible GP Dr Marcus Hewitson at Ocean Shores Nutritional & Environmental Medicine who saw Dad and supported us in our alternative therapies and also got Dad on some Vitamin C and Vitamin B IV drips. These were expensive but you could really see his energy increase after each one.
This process was over about 8 weeks and was pretty scary at times. I don’t know if it was his body detoxing, the cancer spreading or even retreating but some days Dad couldn’t get off the couch. He would have nights of vomiting, diarrhoea, nausea, headaches, body aches, night sweats and then some days he was great. By the 8 week mark we were rejoicing the fact he was still with us and seemed to be getting a lot stronger. By this stage he was readying to go home and we were still a little worried about him driving home. Just before they left my Uncle called me and told me about a man name Joe Tippens who had the same cancer as Dad and was riddled it it. He had treated and cured his cancer using dog worming tablets!! Yes that’s right, dog worming tablets as well as turmeric, vitamin E and CBD Oil. So we looked in to that and thought what the hell let’s do that too. Dad was up for anything so we ordered some on the internet and started that protocol as well. The active ingredient had been found to kill cancer cells in mice. The actual ingredient is called Fenbendazole. Dad would take the tablet for 3 days then have 5 days off and did that for 8 weeks. Along with the turmeric tablets and vitamin E and the cannabis oil he was already taking. As you can tell we were pretty much ready to try anything.
Mum and Dad left our place at the start of August and I was still feeling a little apprehensive but he wasn’t getting any worse and from what I can tell he seemed to be getting a little better. Our hope was that he would make it to Christmas but the rest of the family decided to have an early Christmas in August which also celebrated his 84 th birthday and just in case he didn’t get to December. By this stage his hair had started to grow back and he was slowly getting better and better each day.
We are now in February 2020 and I just got back from Mum and Dad’s place. Since Christmas he has gotten stronger and stronger. His hair has completely grown back.. in fact he has had three haircuts since then. He is back playing golf most days, fishing and getting out into the garden. He and Mum are even planning a trip to NZ together. I can’t describe how much better he looks. To look at him you couldn’t even tell he had cancer. Dad was contacted by his oncologist who just wanted to touch base and was frankly shocked that he was still alive and looking so good. Dad has put on all 6 kilos he lost when he was sick and has vitality and feels amazing within himself. At this stage he doesn’t want to do any tests to see where the cancer is at as he if worried that if it has spread that it will set him back. He said he feels amazing and that is all he needs to know. I am inclined to agree although part of me would love to know if the cancer has gone or halted. The main thing is he got WAY past the initial prognosis of 3 months, then he got to Christmas with flying colours and we are now 11 months past his initial diagnosis and he looks healthier than he has in years. A lady from their home town stopped me recently and said “When your Dad left to go your place in June none of us thought we would see him again.. we still can’t believe it and he looks 20 years younger!” .
So all I can say is we don’t know where his cancer is at, but he went from being at deaths door to an extremely healthy almost 85 year old man who is back to doing all the things he loves with an amazing quality of life. We are so grateful to everyone who has helped and supported us on this journey. It is one that I feel privileged to be a part of.
My father has stage 4 lung cancer, he is going downhill fast. We stopped chemo yesterday because he won’t make it through. Any advise would be great
My wife was just diagnosed with cancer in her lower right lung. They are going to operate and remove. She is going to do some chemo which I don’t have a lot of faith in other than lining someone pockets. Would like to know THC level you started at and worked your way up to. Stepdaughter had someone cut her hair to make a wig for my wife(her Mom) and it was mentioned why she was doing this and the stylist mention that she was a stage 4 survivor .She said that besides the Chemo she also used
THC/CBD oil. We are goin to give it a try. I really would appreciate any information you could send. Thank-you for your time.
Just read your your story and so inspiring
My husband is a very fit 58 year old, plays golf, works,helps paint his sisters house etc.
Was a milkman for 27 years so as you can see he is healthy. Retired 2 years ago Feb
Had a very bad back pain and breathing problems last week and did a CT scan and found that half his right lung had a tumor. Will be doing a biopsy tomorrow.
Can you please let me know where you can buy the oils as would like to start as soon as possible
Also from being on a very high as our first grandson was born on the 1/1/21 and on the 13th we found out this news.
I had stage 3 melanoma which spread to my lymph nodes. I did 3 months of cannabis oil, 3X a day, and now am cancer free a year later. I had a perfect CT scan (Sept 2017), a perfect brain scan (Feb 2018), and recently a perfect PET scan. No cancer anywhere! I didn’t do any other form of treatment. No surgeries, no chemo, nothing. I got my oil from this Lady “Zita” ([email protected]) Thanks for reading….
Indeed a great article. I stay in India. Definitely will like to share it with lot of other people over here. By the way, how is your father now?
Treating stage 4 small cell lung cancer with Cannabis Oil and other things. Medical disclaimer: This page is for informational purposes only and may not be construed as medical advice. The information is not intended to replace medical advice offered by physicians. I wanted to share some information on our e
Lung cancer: medical cannabis as a therapy option
Bronchial carcinoma is the most common cause of cancer death in men after prostate cancer and colon cancer and the second most common cause of cancer death in women after breast cancer and colon cancer. Medical cannabis can be used in chemo/radiation therapy to help alleviate the side effects. In addition, interesting in vitro studies show that cannabinoids may be able to inhibit the growth of lung cancer cells.
There are two types of lung tumours. Approximately one in five patients suffers from small-cell bronchial carcinoma. This aggressive tumour grows very quickly and usually forms early metastases in other organs.
A less aggressive type of lung cancer is non-small-cell lung cancer, which affects approximately 80 percent of patients. Since this tumour consists of larger cells, it usually grows only slowly in a limited area of the lung. The formation of metastases is also slower, so that the tumour can often still be removed in the early stages.
Causes and symptoms of lung cancer
Tobacco smoking is one of the main causes of pulmonary cancer. Only 15 percent of all lung cancer patients are non-smokers. However, other carcinogenic substances, such as asbestos dust or radioactive substances, can also damage the cells of the lung tissue, causing tumours to form.
In addition, lung scars, which can result from inflammation or injury, can also increase the risk of lung cancer. The same applies to an inherited predisposition.
At the beginning of the disease, lung cancer usually causes no symptoms. The first signs could be shortness of breath, chest pain, fatigue and chronic coughing. In the advanced stage, affected persons lose a lot of weight within a short time and frequent sputum with or without blood occurs. Other symptoms such as breathing difficulties, night sweats and fever can also occur.
Lung cancer: division into stages
There are two stages of small cell bronchial carcinoma:
- Stage LD (limited disease): In the limited stage, the tumour is limited to one lung and one side of the chest.
- Stage ED (extensive disease): In the extensive stage, the tumour has spread to the surrounding tissue and the ribcage. In addition, metastases have already formed in the body.
The tumour in non-small cell lung cancer is assessed using the TNM classification. Here, the letter T (tumour) describes the size of the tumour and how far it has spread. N (node) indicates whether the lymph nodes are affected and M (metastasis) indicates whether the tumour has metastasised.
Based on this stage classification, doctors can then plan treatment and follow-up care. It also enables doctors to better assess the course of the disease and the chances of recovery.
Therapy options for pulmonary cancer
The therapy depends mainly on the type of tumour and the stage of the disease. A non-small-cell tumour can be surgically removed, provided that no metastases have yet formed. The chances of recovery are correspondingly good. If the tumour has grown into the neighbouring tissue or if the lymph nodes in the vicinity of the tumour are affected, radiotherapy is usually used. Chemotherapy is usually only given if metastases have formed in other organs.
The treatment of a small-cell lung tumour is far more difficult, because in about 75 percent of all cases metastases have already formed in other organs. Surgical removal of the tumour is only possible if it is still very small. This is rarely the case with small cell tumours. The treatment options available are chemotherapy with cytostatic drugs and then radiotherapy.
Studies: influence of cannabinoids on cancer cell growth
In 2019, researchers from Rangsit University in Thailand published the interesting results of their study (1). In a mouse model they were able to show that the cannabinoids tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), cannabidiol (CBD) and cannabinol (CBN) were able to inhibit the growth of bronchial carcinoma. The researchers attribute the anti-cancer properties mainly to the combination of THC and CBN.
Based on the positive results, the researchers are now planning clinical trials. They also announced that the Medical Research Institute at the university is already working on a manufacturing method to extract pure cannabinoid compounds such as THC and CBN from the cannabis plant. This extract will then be used to develop a new drug.
The fact that the combination of individual cannabinoids seems to play an important role in the inhibition of cancer growth is also confirmed by Israeli researchers in their in vitro study (2). They investigated the effects of twelve cannabinoid combinations on twelve different cancer cell lines. It turned out that especially the combinations with a high THC content showed a strong cytotoxic effect on the cancer cell lines.
Again, Italian researchers came to a different conclusion. In their in vitro study they examined the antitumoral activities of the cannabinoids cannabidiol (CBD), cannabigerol (CBG), cannabichromes (CBC), cannabidiol acid (CBDA) and THC acid (THCA) on tumor cell lines (3). Here it was shown that CBD was the strongest inhibitor of cancer cell growth.
Medical cannabis in the treatment of lung cancer
Chemo- and/or radiotherapy is a heavy burden for cancer patients, both physically and psychologically. Medical cannabis can be used here to alleviate the side effects and improve the quality of life of patients. To date, there are no conclusive studies that would allow a reliable statement to be made as to whether the inhalation of medical cannabis additionally damages the lungs in lung cancer.
In a case-control study at the University of California in Los Angeles, the researchers investigated whether cannabis users showed an increased risk of lung cancer (4). This control study involved 611 lung cancer patients, 601 patients with head and neck cancer and 1040 healthy people. Here, even regular cannabis users did not show an increased risk of lung cancer.
However, researchers from the Medical Research Institute in New Zealand came to a different conclusion (5). In this case-control study, 79 lung cancer patients and 324 controls were enrolled. Here the researchers found that the risk of cancer increased by eight percent for each year of cannabis use. The researchers concluded that long-term cannabis use may increase the risk of lung cancer.
Because of the uncertain study situation, lung cancer patients are advised not to inhale/vaporize medical cannabis. Instead, prescription drugs (oily solutions) or ready-to-use drugs can be used.
(3) Istituto di Chimica Biomolecolare, Consiglio Nazionale delle Ricerche Pozzuoli, Italy, Ligresti A1 et al., 2006, “Antitumor activity of plant cannabinoids with emphasis on the effect of cannabidiol on human breast carcinoma”
(5) Medical Research Institute of New Zealand, Wellington, 2008, „Cannabis use and risk of lung cancer: a case-control study“
About Mary Biles
Mary Biles is a British journalist and blogger with a background in complementary therapies and holistic health. Through her writing she is committed to providing accurate reporting and education about the medicinal uses of cannabis.
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